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A couple of weeks ago they came out with a forecast that was not very good, and the stock got whacked. Management and the family behind it think of this in 50-year cycles. They are taking the short-term pain to have a better future opportunity. However, investors just sold not caring what the strategy was. There is an interesting opportunity here because you are investing in a company that is planning for the future. You need patience though. There is no big rush to buy this, but if you want to buy a metal stock, put it away for 5 years and wait for the cycle, you should do fine. They have a good balance sheet and great management and a good leverage to metals. The new price looks good.
There was a real change of events last week and the week before where there was a very, very negative reaction to the Candelaria mine in Chile, where the walls had collapsed. He finds the commodity space of metals, minerals, oils, gas a tough place to be because of volatility. A lot are very capital-intensive projects, and when something goes wrong, it is very costly, and very costly to shareholders. It’s always been too volatile for his liking.
Hudbay (HBM-T) or Lundin Mining (LUN-T)? The great, great history going back in time is Hudbay. The shorter-term great history is this one, and has been much more active on the world scene. Very successful and one of the few decent sized names. We are not marching to great heights with these companies. He holds both.
The composition of the metals in this company is attractive. The only issue is that they need to make an acquisition. They have a lot of cash and she would like to see them do something. It will be interesting to see what they buy, and until that happens, there is a little bit of uncertainty. A well-managed company with very, very nice assets.
Mining is a difficult business. When he is investing in resources, he much prefers oil and gas. The companies tend to be much more diversified on a property perspective. This company is an example of one that has been well-managed. They keep their capital allocation hat on and really go after the best properties. He would have this as a Hold to a Buy.
First Quantum (FM-T) or Hudbay (HBM-T)? He tries to only focus in areas of the market that are strong technically and fundamentally. Also, he always looks for new groups of leadership to emerge. In the last few weeks, despite the fact that commodities in general have been spotty, the metals group has started to perform better. Globally, things are getting better economically, but in addition, the US$ has really taken a tumble. When that happens, it tends to be good for emerging markets and good for commodity prices. The 3 metal stocks that stand out would be Hudbay, First Quantum, and Lundin (LUN-T). All 3 look very attractive. He would be OK with all 3.
The good news is that the materials space has been down a lot in the last 3 months. This company has been going sideways. He takes that as on-balance strength in the name. His model price is $8.87, a 21% increase. If we get everything going positively, big earnings and everybody back into the mining sector, probably the most you are going to get to is $9.16. If we go into a big Bear market, it goes down to $3.70. He would Hold this here, but is looking at the $9 top.
They have over $1 billion in cash, and the market is anticipating how they might deploy it. Rather than a special dividend, they are more likely going to do some sort of transaction. The bottom line is, it is not easy to find good projects today that are not owned by the majors. He likes the name. They are generating free cash flow. The NAV is well protected in that a very small percentage is in development. This is well diversified across zinc, copper and nickel. Nickel has been the driver up until now and he thinks zinc will be part of the driver for the next couple of years. A good way to get exposure to 3 basic materials.
Feels this is undervalued compared to its competitors. One of the knocks is the big mine in the Democratic Republic of the Congo with Freeport McMoran (FCX-N). The two are getting out and Chinese firms are coming in to take over. The question is, when they sell the company how do they redeploy that capital. Historically they have gone into unfriendly jurisdictions very early, waited for them to turn around and then sold them. Shareholders have done very well with that.
A small position is how you should play a lot of these companies, as these almost trade like options. They are going to do really, really well, or they are going to really hurt you. They are volatile. This is a good company. In the past, they have earned a pretty good ROC. If we can get back to normal, you are going to get a nice pop. His figures showed that this could be $10-$12.