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Thinks we are in the late stages in the market, and he is not sure that you want to own any large caps trading at 14X earnings with a pretty small dividend yield. He would be very cautious on this. These things can go down a lot in a correction. Yield of 1.25% and he would stick with the companies that have a better dividend.
This is not growing at the same massive rate that you are seeing with Visa (V-N) and MasterCard (MA-N). The issue is that they want to keep their service level very high and they want to cater to the elite high end customer, so they really have to walk a fine balance between cutting costs. Their mobile initiatives are excellent. They are also doing Optblue, going after the small merchants, which could be very large. Valuation is pretty attractive versus its 2 rivals. Owning all 3 would not be a bad play either.
Visa (V-N) or American Express (AXP-N)? At present she does not hold a credit card company, but it is a group that she is looking at because they have all pulled back close to their 50 day moving average. Visa and MasterCard trade at a much higher multiple (25X forward earnings) but growth rates are arguably stronger than American Express. Between this and Visa she would probably prefer Visa because it is a larger, more dominant player.
(A Top Pick May 1/13. Up 26.6%.) Getting a little bit difficult to hold for him. At the end of the day he thinks that MasterCard (MC-N), Visa (V-N) and Discover (DFS-N) are a little bit more interesting. There is no evident reason to Sell at this point. Extremely well managed and they don’t often disappoint.
Visa (V-N) and MasterCard (MC-N) really do the network and don’t have any exposure to the credit side of things, or whether people pay or default on their bills, whereas this company does. Because of this, you are able to buy this on lower multiples, which is attractive. A great franchise. High ROE’s over time. Valuation at this time keeps her on the sidelines.
Sold his stock at $65 because he thought it was fully valued. This is a fundamentally different company than Visa (V-N) or MasterCard (MC-N). They actually issue credit cards so therefore they take on credit and default risks and bear the burden of this themselves. If there is softness in the economy, which it looks like we are going to have, you will see defaults go up and you’ll see credit risks going into this company. He would be inclined to own something like Visa or MasterCard.
Would be more inclined to play Visa (V-N) in this area, as it is showing better International growth. They are all facing the same headwinds of more competition from online payments. Visa has done a better job even though it is a little bit more expensive. You are better off owning the better grower.