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Pipelines are an essential part of the whole energy infrastructure and he doesn’t see the production side easing off that much. Part of the problem now is that we still have big oil sands projects coming on, and they are going to keep on coming simply because we have already expended $1-$2 billion. This is going to be in business for a while. Dividend is okay and is likely to grow.
(A Top Pick Dec 20/13. Up 13.14%.) Doesn’t think Keystone matters anymore. If it happens, that will be gravy. What is more important is the pipeline that they finish building between Oklahoma and the Texas coast. Pipelines are a monopoly. No one is building them any more and there are a lot of restrictions.
Thinks this is fully valued. There are a couple of hedge funds running around trying to agitate for some change and do some financial engineering by spinning off some of the assets into some MLPs, juice up the yield, borrow some money and sell it to investors so the hedge fund can make a bunch of money. If this sold some of its power assets, that would be a positive. Very interest-rate sensitive.
If you are going to own pipelines for a long period of time, he would give the edge to Enbridge (ENB-T). This company has had a correction, but what has been holding them up is the worry about the XL pipeline. Over the next several years, he sees their cash flow going up to the $6 range, so he feels you are paying a fair price for it today, but it is not a bargain.
Longer-term they are growing their dividend 5%-8% per year, which he likes. You are probably paying nothing for Keystone and maybe a little for Energy East. Growth over the next couple of years, is primarily infrastructure in Alberta.