Energy. The implosion we have had rivals the great recession, and in fact is worse. In some cases names are trading at all-time lows. Negativity in the energy sector is unparalleled and is really historic. There are 3 reasons he feels people are so bearish on oil. 1.) We are told demand is very weak and there is a fear of Chinese demand falling. 2.) We are awash in oil with Iranian oil hitting the market and US production still up. 3.) The forward Strip with oil below $50 is all the way out to 2017. You can see why people are being far too negative. 1.) Demand today is at record amounts. Year-over-year growth rate is as strong as it has been since coming out of the great recession, so we consume more barrels today than we ever have in history. 2.) We know Chinese demand is weak, but he would love to see the data points that people actually have, because the numbers he has shows record oil imports into China and record gasoline consumption in China. Their demand has been flat lining for 3 years, so it is not a new story. If you remove China, emerging economic oil demand has been growing by 1 million barrels per day, each year for the past decade. At current oil prices, it is impossible for US production to grow and we are months away from it being down year-over-year. Even at $45-$55, US oil production could be down by half a million barrels per day by next year. The worst case of Iran is about 800 hundred thousand barrels a day to come onto the market. That represents 6 months of demand. For the past 5 years, outside of OPEC and the US, production has been falling while the average oil price has been over $100. There are companies that can theoretically still drill wells that have a positive rate of return, and yet are still going bankrupt. This is because the amount of cash flow most companies generate is not enough to offset their decline. 3.) The oil Strip tells us we should be negative. He believes we have to go to 2017 until oil is over $50. Looking historically at the predictive capability of Strip, the R squared is less than 1%. That means that one time out of 100 the Strip is actually accurate.
The valuation of these energy companies is unparalleled. You can get so much value for free, because everybody is so pessimistic. It is a waiting game of maybe 1-2 quarters. If he can buy stocks that are trading at 5X cash flow where he is getting possible reserves, their dividend, of which many are sustainable when we get a rally, stocks can go up by 50%-100%. He personally thinks we will recover to around $55-$60 at some point next year.
Markets. Every now and then the market goes through a chaotic period where it kind of loses itself. It detaches itself from fundamentals and you get either a selloff or equally you get a huge run in the market, but we don’t consider that to be a problem when it is going up. This is the 1st really serious correction in about 4 years and is probably overdue. The important thing is to not lose track that earnings, generally speaking, are coming in line. It is really an issue of supply/demand for stocks as opposed to a big reaction to what is happening on earnings. Ultimately earnings drive where the market is going, and as a consequence this will come to pass in the not too distant future and will be back into a good market. His thesis on growth stocks, which will very much affect the NASDAQ, is that the knowledge based industries are often the most attractive place to be. These stocks can have very volatile moves to the upside. These stocks have been cruising for very, very long time, so if they check back by 10%-15% it might seem like a pretty severe correction. It is a normal course of events that the market has deposits from time to time and sorts itself out. The key thing is that nobody can time the short term movements of the market or trade it. Focus on resilient business models that can grow under any economic circumstances, and when you find you are in a market like this, just ride the storm out.
How do you assess what constitutes a competent and astute management team? When he meets with a new company, the first meeting is to take a measure of the CEO, not the company, and find out what his story is. His theory is that people are not mediocre for 30 years and then become superstars. There are usually a whole bunch of signs of exceeding expectations or outperforming all the way through their career. The smaller the company, the more important the jockey. He would then check out the management team.
Canadian Banks? Excellent quality and pay good dividends. They don’t have a high enough ROE for his fund, but for somebody who is doing their own thing, having a weighting in banks is terrific. Given all the macro issues in the world right now, he wouldn’t actually buy a single bank. You can own any one of the pick 6 banks. They are all well-managed.
Markets. A couple of weeks ago, he had said there were notable signs of decay. Markets had the narrowest trading range in 90 years. It broke late last week giving you a more dramatic move. He was looking for the S&P 500 to come off somewhere between 10%-15%. Once we broke 10% this morning and got towards 15%, the extremes of the market, it was down more than 15%, but the buyers stepped in. Had been positive on gold in buying the dips, but sold it all out on Friday. It was an anaemic bounce on gold considering the rout on global equities. If gold can get a flight to quality trade, inflation is not coming back anytime soon, so he is out of gold. REITs are a place in the Canadian markets where you get great yields. When you look at how far they have come off the top, it is a very good correction for the yield seekers out there. He would look for a bounce of 4%-5%, which could take weeks, followed by another move down of 15%, maybe 20%. Doesn’t think we are going into a major global bear market.
Markets. He had been talking about a 5%-10% correction, so at about 7 AM, if you took the 4% decline right across the board and added them to last Friday’s declines from the highs, you are between 10% and 15%, so he thought it was possible that we might have a bounce. We had our correction and he is quite positive going forward. This tells him that sentiment was in the hands of the traders. They saw an opportunity to make a buck, and they did. The majority of investors probably didn’t sell into the decline, being in it for the long-term. In the very short term, he has a list of things that he wants to buy. Some have come down precipitously, much more than the market, and others that haven’t budged very much. As prices approach Buy points, he will cautiously step in. Since 2008-2009, people have not trusted this market. Probably one of the most heated Bull markets in history. He has counselled his clients to be patient. The US is improving rapidly. Wildcards are China, Japan and Europe.
Energy. Weak energy prices are here to stay for some time. He is looking for anywhere from $55-$70 as a price over the next several years. Drilling costs have dropped like a stone and labour costs have dropped. Looking at the spread between whatever the energy price is, and the new cost base, it is a bit more encouraging than you might think. Will have to wait for a while for that to work through, but he thinks this is a positive. $30 oil is not going to happen. It may spike down to $35, but $40 is a long-term base.
Markets. In the big picture, he believes we are in a bull market. However, we haven’t had a correction since 2011 where he saw exactly the same symptoms. This correction has been very overdue and it is healthy. The financial crisis was part of a secular sideways market and 2011 was the 1st proper correction in the bull market. Also, the technical indicators he was following were screening very similar signals to what had happened in 2011. The monster move down this morning created a little bit of a capitulation look. This is the beginning of a bottoming process. Often when you get these washouts, you get an immediate rally. This prediction is that very, very soon, if not beginning tomorrow, we will get a rally. It would not surprise him that if in the next week or 2 we got a rally that was followed by another leg down, and then it will probably be over.
Energy. There are certain support levels on oil, and the final one was around $38. He thinks we are very, very close to a bottom on oil, however there has to be a basing process. Nothing just V bottoms and then goes up, we usually get some sort of a process. If we get a basing at around $38 for a few months, that will indicate oil will probably put in a bottom.
Keith’s rule of 3. An intermediate to short-term trader typically trades in 3-6 months time horizons and typically uses around 3 days or more on a break. If the break is to the downside, he is out. If it is a break from a level of resistance to the upside, he is in. He has a minimum of 3 days, but it is typically longer than 3 days. If you are a longer-term “buy and hold” type of investor, he would probably wait a couple of weeks, even up to 3 weeks.
Markets. Feels we are in a little bit of No Man’s land and that we are in the later innings of the correction. Corrections are always defined by extent, time, duration, percentage, etc. and he looks at it a little differently. He wants a Correction to have the effect that it is intended to have, i.e. to basically weed out the weak holders in the market, to remind everybody that equities is a risk phased asset and that the risk/reward is intact. Thinks this one is having that affect. What we normally see in Bull Market corrections are the short, sharp corrections versus the Bear Market effect of just wearing you out. This is showing all the markings of a Bull Market correction, with the extreme volatility, reversals, volume fluctuations, etc. We may have a little bit more to go, but he would remind everyone that equities are long term assets, so keep your eye on the horizon and don’t sell into this through any form of panic. This isn’t the end of anything, this is normal. We can move to new highs, but investors have to be selective. Rather than looking at percentages of the depletion of their various stocks, they should be looking at fundamentals. Do they have real growth of revenues, cash flow and earnings? That is going to be the thing that will allow these stock prices to move higher. Just the fact that they have corrected 10% or 20%, doesn’t give them the right to move to a new high.