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Just hit a 6-week low and has reportedly missed on both the top and bottom line. Guided slightly higher for 2018, but the street didn't care, because there is an SEC investigation and they have to restate 2017 and 2016 results. Not a value stock. It’s trading at 17X forward earnings with an uncertain growth rate. 4%-5% seems to be the consensus, but who knows. Their plan of selling $20 billion in assets and $1 billion in cost cuts really isn't enough for the street. He wouldn't want to catch this falling knife. Would rather see it higher and at least break through the 50-day moving average. Prefers United Technology (UTX-N).
The company is now starting to break up into its component parts to release a tremendous amount of value. Hopes there is still lots of good value left. One of the problems is that their insurance side is still weighing down the company, and they have had to take an enormous write off of $6.4 billion, with more to come in the next 2 to 3 years.
In the speculative portfolio he manages, he has taken a position in this. It was the dog of the Dow last year. When he was preparing for this show, it was trending nicely and was the 2nd best performer in the Dow this year. Now it is on its way to becoming another dog of the Dow this year. This is purely an asset play. He is looking for Flannery to move this company around and try to take advantage. All the negative news today has caused another downside of about 3.5%-4%. This is not in his core portfolio or his US growth portfolio, it is in his aggressive portfolio. Dividend yield of 2.6%. (Analysts' price target is $20.95.)
Probably the worst performing large cap in the US last year. They are so big and there is so much stuff in them that you don't necessarily really know what is going on inside. If you own this, it is probably a Hold, as he doesn't see much more downside. It sounds like there could be a couple of more pieces of bad news to come. Have some great assets long-term, and expects the company to get back on its feet, and march forward over the next 5 years.
Had owned this when it was trading somewhat in a pattern, but it broke support and he got out. It’s at the very, very early stages of "possibly basing", because it hasn't had enough time to build a base. You need a few months of sideways, upside, downside, choppy look on the chart, and then a break out before buying.
This is a turnaround story. Management has come in and have done a lot of hard things, cutting the dividend twice in the last 130 years. They've gotten rid of a lot of management and a lot of costs. They are going to be selling a lot of businesses and paying down debt. They are doing the right things, but it is going to take time. He can see much more of an upside on the stock over the next year.
The problem with this company is all in their past because of the old CEOs attempts to turn the company around. There is a new CEO, and things are unknown as to what comes next. There are better companies out there he would rather invest in, where he is getting free cash flow growth on a constant basis. The dividend was cut, which is not a good sign of good cash flow management. If he owned this, he wouldn't Hold it.
Has had a very tough go over the last 15 years. He hasn't been involved for many, many years. They had just been buying and selling properties that made no sense, and are just starting to get out of the hole. It’s been thrown on the value heap. There will be a time of resurrection, but you don't want to spend too much time with dormant or dead money before that Renaissance, which won't happen for a while.
Hold or Sell? This has probably bottomed now, given that the new CEO has come in. He cut the dividend quite dramatically, and intends to sell more assets. Their core power business is not doing very well and will take a number of years to rectify. If you are a very long-term investor, and have ridden out the pain, it likely has bottomed and things can only get better going forward. Prefers United Technologies (UTX-N).
Probably has a $1 to $1.50 of earnings power. At the current price you are paying 14 or 15 times. From a Value standpoint it’s fine. Airplane engines and power plants are not going away. He wouldn’t object to owning this at the current price, but would Sell it if it got over $22-$23 in the short term.
Recently sold his position. They have exposure to some very good parts of the industrial sector, such as aerospace, power generation, renewable power, healthcare, etc. In spite of this, the company is not doing well. Cost control has not been great. The amount of debt on their balance sheet is significant.
A little concerned about the progress management is going to be able to make as they prune the portfolio trying to right size it. After years of growing by acquisition, focusing on energy and relying on GE Financial, he worries at a stock trading at this price and supposed to generate $1 in earnings. They’ve cut the dividend. There’s a lot of work to be done. It looks like the end markets are struggling. It’s probably going to take several quarters before the turnaround starts to work out. You really want to see organic growth before you get excited. There are better risks/rewards in other industrials.
Everything has changed with this company. It went from being a darling 20 years ago at the end of the Jack Walsh era. Jeff Immelt was a darling for far, far too long. He is now out, and Mr. Flannery is in. They've ratcheted down their earnings expectations, as their cash flow is awful. He wouldn't look at this. It will have a bottom, but he doesn't know where that is.